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Young Interview

Interview Date: March 2018

MSI Corporation

MSI CorporationInnovation Business Division Sales Group Assistant Manager Tetsuro Sata
Innovation Business Division Sales Group Chief Tomoki Ono

We have introduced two young salesmen who are expected to drive MSI's FLEXSCHE business in the future.
We will hear about the value of FLEXSCHE from the perspectives of these two individuals with different types and their outlook as system sales representatives for the company.

Active Salesman Touring the Five Prefectures of Tohoku

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

First, please tell us about yourselves.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

I joined MSI in 2005. In my previous job, I was in sales for commercial refrigerators. Currently, I work at the Koriyama branch and am responsible for the entire Fukushima area as a sales representative for the Innovation Business Division.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

I joined as a new graduate in 2009. I work at the headquarters in Yamagata City as a sales representative for the Innovation Business Division, covering the entire areas of Iwate, Miyagi, and Yamagata, as well as part of Akita.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Mr. Ono, your activity range is very wide!

MSI Ono MSI Ono

Yes, it takes about four hours by car to visit customers in Akita.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

That's quite a long time! With such a wide area, you must have many clients to visit, and it must be quite busy with little time off, right?

MSI Sata MSI Sata

I make sure to take proper time off. It would be rude to visit customers when I'm exhausted.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

I see. What are your hobbies that you enjoy on your days off?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

It's not exactly a hobby, but on my days off, I coach as a director for a local youth soccer team.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

My hobbies are snowboarding and band activities. I do both with my colleagues, and the band activities are done as a "club activity" at our company.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Does your company have club activities?

MSI Sata MSI Sata

There is sometimes support from the company for activities, and club activities are very active. Most employees belong to some club, and there is a lot of interaction among colleagues.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Mr. Ono, which clubs are you a part of?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

I'm in the bowling club and a club called the "Macho Club."

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

The Macho Club? (laughs) That sounds like a healthy activity. What kind of activities do you do?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

Unlike other club activities, it's mostly individual practice, but we each strive to train our bodies daily.

The Role of System Sales

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

I've heard that you both specialize in sales activities for the manufacturing industry. What do you feel when meeting with manufacturing customers?

MSI Sata MSI Sata

This hasn't changed for over 10 years, but I feel that the root of the challenges faced by the manufacturing industry lies in planning operations. The current demands on the manufacturing industry are very high. Despite being multi-variety and small-lot, it is expected to adhere to delivery dates, increase productivity at lower costs, and meet high-quality standards. Therefore, better production scheduling is indispensable, but I feel that many small and medium-sized enterprises, which make up a large part of the manufacturing industry in Tohoku, have not been able to systematize planning operations.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

When I visit various manufacturing customers, they talk about various challenges, and I feel that improving planning operations is key to solving many of them. FLEXSCHE will undoubtedly play a significant role in this. There are still many companies that do not know how to solve the challenges they face. I believe that providing and proposing information about such solutions is our responsibility to the manufacturing industry in Tohoku.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

How well-known do you think production schedulers are at the moment?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

From my experience in sales activities, a significant percentage of people have heard the term but have no understanding of what it is.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Even though it's the sales department, you're proposing systems, so isn't it challenging to be required to have a wide range of knowledge?

MSI Sata MSI Sata

Yes, that's true. We don't actually do programming like engineers, so we're not as in-depth, but we're constantly studying new technologies and systems. Ono is very diligent in his studies and even does prototyping at the proposal stage himself, without relying on in-house engineers.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

It's still just simple models. At our company, we always prototype at the proposal stage to explain what FLEXSCHE can do or whether it fits the customer's production. It's necessary to prove that it can be done, rather than just saying, "It seems like it can accommodate the customer's production."

MSI Sata MSI Sata

Currently, engineers often accompany us to meetings to support the technical aspects, but in the future, we want to acquire the skills to reach orders with just the sales department.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

But isn't that quite a challenging task?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

If we acquire the skills, the speed of negotiations will increase, and we will keep customers waiting less. Plus, sales activities will become more enjoyable.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

We are "system sales," so we want to set high goals. I still have a long way to go in that skill area, but I want to work hard.

To Provide Customer Satisfaction

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

What do you find challenging about working with FLEXSCHE?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

There's no doubt that FLEXSCHE is an excellent production scheduler, but during negotiations, customers' expectations can sometimes become excessively high, thinking "This will solve all our problems!" Due to various circumstances, we may not always be able to meet those expectations.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

What are the common cases where implementation doesn't go smoothly?

MSI Ono MSI Ono

It's often the case that the customer's representative cannot prepare the master data. Especially when the representative belongs to the system department and is distant from the field staff, or when there is a difference in expectations towards FLEXSCHE between the field staff and the representative, it can become a difficult project. No matter how much effort the representative puts in, implementation cannot proceed without the cooperation of the field staff. We can't commit to overly internal matters, and it tends to become a challenging case.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

Indeed, if we don't receive the necessary information from the customer, we can't make progress. As a result, if we can't deliver in the way the planners or representatives envision, it is frustrating for us as well. It's an area that is often beyond our reach, but we feel there must be something we can do.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

Additionally, many customers expect a perfect system from the start, but given such circumstances, it's difficult to achieve that. Therefore, we propose starting with a system that is at least 50% complete. From there, we can improve it to 70%, 90% through operation.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

If we can get the system running and let them experience the benefits, even at 50%, they will appreciate the value of FLEXSCHE. This way, FLEXSCHE can be recognized as a necessary presence in the factory, and subsequent improvements will be quicker. However, since it is a system that requires knowledge to operate, if the field staff do not appreciate the value of FLEXSCHE, it may not be operated effectively even if it is running.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

I see. Since it's not a system that immediately shows results just by purchasing a license, users also face challenges in achieving outcomes.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

However, I've never thought of it as a difficult product to handle in sales. It can be clearly differentiated from other production schedulers.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

It's a tool that can meet various customer demands, and I believe it's an easy solution to sell.

The Goals of Two Salesmen

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Please tell us about the rewarding aspects of this job that you both feel.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

I am in charge of the entire Fukushima area, focusing on developing new customers. Honestly, working in areas away from Yamagata, where our company's recognition is low, can be tough. However, there have been times when I started with a small new project through cold calls, continued to consult with the customer, and received a large order a few years later. Building relationships with customers over time and being entrusted with significant work is a fulfilling moment as a salesman.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

Like Sada, I also work in new areas for sales activities, and I was delighted when I received an order for FLEXSCHE from a new customer in Iwate. Competing with other local companies in an unfamiliar area and gaining the customer's trust is an indescribable feeling.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Both of you feel a special sense of fulfillment when you gain trust from new customers while developing new areas.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

Yes, I'm looking forward to meeting more customers and proposing solutions in the future.

FLEXSCHE Tanaka FLEXSCHE

Finally, please tell us about your work policies.

MSI Sata MSI Sata

I value "selling myself." I want to build good relationships with customers and be a salesman they can consult with about anything. Some people are skeptical about cold calls. Losing the opportunity to provide a good solution to the customer due to such an image would be regrettable. Therefore, I want to build a good relationship with customers as quickly as possible and be a salesman they can have deep conversations with.

MSI Ono MSI Ono

Unlike Sada, I'm a bit shy and not good at quickly building relationships with customers. However, I aim to be a salesman who can always provide customers with live information. I want to be well-prepared when visiting a customer and provide valuable information and solutions to customers who have taken the time for me.

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